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Phoenix vs Tidehunter

Head-to-head Dota 2 7.41f win rate from ranked matches.

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Phoenix 50.78%
Phoenix50.78%
Tidehunter49.22%
Over 15,358 ranked matches (7.41f).

In Dota 2 7.41f, Phoenix wins the Phoenix vs Tidehunter matchup: Phoenix beats Tidehunter in 50.78% of 15,358 ranked matches.

How this matchup plays

Trying to land a big ultimate in a teamfight is where this matchup gets decided. If Phoenix commits to Supernova, Tidehunter can simply wait for it and then use Ravage to stun everyone trying to defend the egg, leaving it completely exposed. But if Tidehunter leads with Ravage first, Phoenix can usually Icarus Dive away or survive the initial stun and then counter-initiate with a perfect Supernova once Tide's biggest spell is on cooldown. It's a classic standoff between two massive teamfight abilities.

This dynamic means both players are constantly trying to bait the other. The Phoenix will poke from the edges of the fight, using Fire Spirits to try and force Tidehunter to act. Meanwhile, the Tidehunter player is looking for a Blink initiation on a more important target, hoping to catch Phoenix in the Ravage without having to focus him directly. Tide's Kraken Shell also helps him shrug off a lot of the early burn damage, making him a frustrating target for Phoenix to wear down. The fight often goes to whichever player has more patience.

Phoenix vs Tidehunter by rank

How the matchup shifts across skill brackets — Phoenix's win rate against Tidehunter in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.

RankPhoenix win rateMatches
Herald & Guardian58.65%104
Crusader & Archon48.00%425
Legend & Ancient51.50%602
Divine & Immortal46.61%221

Phoenix vs Tidehunter across patches

Phoenix's win rate against Tidehunter in each recent balance patch — whether this matchup is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.

PatchPhoenix win rateChangeMatches
7.41f 50.78%▲ +0.9pp15,358
7.41e 49.88%▲ +0.4pp56,824
7.41d 49.48%▲ +0.1pp71,137
7.41c 49.41%—50,993

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Put Phoenix against Tidehunter

Phoenix starts on Radiant and Tidehunter on Dire. Add the other eight picks to see whether this head-to-head edge survives the full draft.

Radiant4 open
Phoenix
Dire4 open
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Frequently asked questions

Does Phoenix counter Tidehunter?
Phoenix wins 50.78% of ranked matches against Tidehunter in Dota 2 7.41f (15,358 matches) — the matchup favors Phoenix.
Does Tidehunter counter Phoenix?
Tidehunter wins 49.22% of ranked matches against Phoenix in Dota 2 7.41f (15,358 matches) — the matchup favors Phoenix.
How many matches back the Phoenix vs Tidehunter win rate?
15,358 quality-filtered ranked matches from patch 7.41f, refreshed as new matches are ingested daily.

Data updated Oct 5, 2026.