How Dark Seer and Grimstroke perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Dark Seer and Grimstroke win 50.51% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 2,372 matches.
Getting pulled together by Vacuum only to be hit with Soulbind sounds like a nightmare. In theory, Dark Seer provides the perfect clump for Grimstroke to lock down two heroes for the rest of the team to hit. The problem is that both of these are powerful, long-cooldown spells. Committing both for a single setup can be overkill, especially when one hero's ultimate might have been enough to win the engagement. If the timing is even slightly off, you've wasted two major teamfight abilities. This makes the partnership less of a guaranteed advantage and more of a high-commitment gamble that doesn't consistently pay off, since better uses for those cooldowns often exist.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Crusader & Archon | 45.22% | 272 |
| Legend & Ancient | 48.00% | 350 |
| Divine & Immortal | 55.88% | 170 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 50.51% | ▲ +0.6pp | 2,372 |
| 7.41d | 49.90% | ▼ -0.0pp | 21,473 |
| 7.41c | 49.94% | ▼ -0.1pp | 6,199 |
| 7.41b | 50.00% | — | 5,346 |
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Data updated Aug 17, 2026.