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Dark Seer + Lion

How Dark Seer and Lion perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.

As teammates
Together 49.02%
Win rate when Dark Seer and Lion are on the same team, over 8,843 ranked matches (7.41e).

In Dota 2 7.41e, Dark Seer and Lion win 49.02% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 8,843 matches.

Why this works

Playing for the mid-game can feel a bit slow with this pairing, as both heroes need a fair amount of resources to come online. Dark Seer needs levels and often a Blink Dagger to land a good Vacuum, and Lion is one of the more level-dependent supports who also desperately wants his own Blink. This can create a passive early game where the team might have to give up map control while waiting for these two to hit their timings. The core combo of Vacuum into Earth Spike is powerful, but it’s a very specific setup that a coordinated enemy team can learn to play around.

The game often comes down to whether Dark Seer and Lion can execute their combo during a key mid-game window. If they successfully find a multi-hero Vacuum, Lion's follow-up control can win a fight and secure an objective. The problem is that if they fall behind, their plan gets much harder to execute. A farmed enemy core might survive the initial burst, and a committed Lion is an easy target to turn on and kill. This makes the duo feel conditional; they need a smooth start to enable their otherwise strong teamfight plan.

Dark Seer + Lion by rank

How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.

RankTeam win rateMatches
Herald & Guardian44.26%366
Crusader & Archon47.76%1,225
Legend & Ancient46.21%1,253
Divine & Immortal48.91%548

Dark Seer + Lion across patches

This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.

PatchTeam win rateChangeMatches
7.41e 49.02%▼ -0.1pp8,843
7.41d 49.08%▼ -1.1pp86,595
7.41c 50.18%▲ +1.3pp29,210
7.41b 48.90%25,799

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Frequently asked questions

Do Dark Seer and Lion work well together in Dota 2?
As teammates, Dark Seer and Lion win 49.02% of ranked matches in patch 7.41e (8,843 matches) — below the 50% baseline for a duo.
How many matches back the Dark Seer + Lion number?
8,843 quality-filtered ranked matches from patch 7.41e, refreshed as new matches are ingested daily.

Data updated Aug 17, 2026.