How Dark Seer and Pangolier perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Dark Seer and Pangolier win 48.45% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 1,391 matches.
Trying to combo their ultimates together often feels awkward. The core idea seems strong: Dark Seer pulls enemies into a tight group with Vacuum, setting them up for Pangolier’s Rolling Thunder. The problem is that Rolling Thunder then stuns and scatters those enemies, immediately undoing the perfect clump you just created. This makes it difficult for the rest of your team to land follow-up area-of-effect spells. While Surge can help a Pangolier get into position, his own abilities already provide plenty of mobility. These two heroes both want to initiate and disrupt fights, but their methods can conflict, leading to less coordination than you might expect.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Crusader & Archon | 47.54% | 122 |
| Legend & Ancient | 39.20% | 125 |
| Divine & Immortal | 52.48% | 101 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 48.45% | ▲ +3.0pp | 1,391 |
| 7.41d | 45.48% | ▲ +0.5pp | 11,211 |
| 7.41c | 44.98% | ▼ -3.5pp | 6,568 |
| 7.41b | 48.45% | — | 7,396 |
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Data updated Aug 18, 2026.