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Dark Seer + Queen of Pain

How Dark Seer and Queen of Pain perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.

As teammates
Together 46.52%
Win rate when Dark Seer and Queen of Pain are on the same team, over 3,998 ranked matches (7.41e).

In Dota 2 7.41e, Dark Seer and Queen of Pain win 46.52% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 3,998 matches.

Why this works

Putting Ion Shell on Queen of Pain often feels like a waste. Her game plan is to Blink in, unload her spells, and get out safely; she doesn't want to linger in the middle of the enemy team where the shell gets its value. Dark Seer's Vacuum setup also has less impact. Scream of Pain already hits a wide area, and Sonic Wave is a long-range blast that doesn't need enemies to be clumped up in a perfect ball. Their kits simply don't offer each other much help.

This disconnect means they struggle to control the pace of the game. Queen of Pain wants to create pickoffs and pressure the map with her mobility, while Dark Seer is looking to set up bigger, five-on-five engagements. Fights can feel fractured, with Dark Seer trying to orchestrate a frontline brawl while QoP is off chasing a support. Without a shared plan for teamfights, it becomes hard for them to convert kills into objectives, often leading to stalemates where the enemy can recover and punish their lack of coordination.

Dark Seer + Queen of Pain by rank

How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.

RankTeam win rateMatches
Herald & Guardian43.98%166
Crusader & Archon42.54%449
Legend & Ancient44.84%533
Divine & Immortal44.30%237

Dark Seer + Queen of Pain across patches

This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.

PatchTeam win rateChangeMatches
7.41e 46.52%▲ +1.0pp3,998
7.41d 45.55%▲ +0.0pp41,154
7.41c 45.51%▼ -2.7pp16,936
7.41b 48.24%16,959

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Frequently asked questions

Do Dark Seer and Queen of Pain work well together in Dota 2?
As teammates, Dark Seer and Queen of Pain win 46.52% of ranked matches in patch 7.41e (3,998 matches) — below the 50% baseline for a duo.
How many matches back the Dark Seer + Queen of Pain number?
3,998 quality-filtered ranked matches from patch 7.41e, refreshed as new matches are ingested daily.

Data updated Aug 17, 2026.