How Dark Seer and Queen of Pain perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41f, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41f, Dark Seer and Queen of Pain win 46.36% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 19,568 matches.
Putting Ion Shell on Queen of Pain often feels like a waste. Her game plan is to Blink in, unload her spells, and get out safely; she doesn't want to linger in the middle of the enemy team where the shell gets its value. Dark Seer's Vacuum setup also has less impact. Scream of Pain already hits a wide area, and Sonic Wave is a long-range blast that doesn't need enemies to be clumped up in a perfect ball. Their kits simply don't offer each other much help.
This disconnect means they struggle to control the pace of the game. Queen of Pain wants to create pickoffs and pressure the map with her mobility, while Dark Seer is looking to set up bigger, five-on-five engagements. Fights can feel fractured, with Dark Seer trying to orchestrate a frontline brawl while QoP is off chasing a support. Without a shared plan for teamfights, it becomes hard for them to convert kills into objectives, often leading to stalemates where the enemy can recover and punish their lack of coordination.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 43.69% | 103 |
| Crusader & Archon | 44.42% | 502 |
| Legend & Ancient | 43.33% | 780 |
| Divine & Immortal | 46.69% | 332 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41f | 46.36% | ▼ -0.1pp | 19,568 |
| 7.41e | 46.41% | ▲ +0.9pp | 55,348 |
| 7.41d | 45.55% | ▲ +0.0pp | 41,154 |
| 7.41c | 45.51% | — | 16,936 |
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Data updated Oct 5, 2026.