How Dark Seer and Tidehunter perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Dark Seer and Tidehunter win 29.61% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 152 matches.
Setting up a big Ravage with Vacuum often feels redundant. Ravage's area of effect is so large that Tidehunter can usually land it without help, making the combo less impactful than it seems on paper. The bigger issue is that both Dark Seer and Tidehunter want to fill the same role as a tanky, teamfight-oriented offlaner. This either forces one into an uncomfortable position or leads to a greedy draft that's light on damage. While Surging an initiating Tidehunter is useful, their overall game plans overlap too much. Your team can end up with two frontliners who set up kills but lack the firepower to secure them, relying too heavily on the other cores.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Crusader & Archon | 26.35% | 167 |
| Legend & Ancient | 31.36% | 118 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 29.61% | ▼ -16.4pp | 152 |
| 7.41d | 46.02% | ▼ -1.9pp | 11,857 |
| 7.41c | 47.89% | ▼ -0.9pp | 6,154 |
| 7.41b | 48.74% | — | 6,627 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.