How Elder Titan and Vengeful Spirit perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Elder Titan and Vengeful Spirit win 53.33% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 165 matches.
Stacking armor reduction from Wave of Terror and Natural Order sounds good on paper, but in practice it can feel redundant. The core issue is that both heroes want to set up kills, but their ideal fights look very different. Vengeful Spirit is focused on enabling a single right-clicking core and making pickoffs with a swap or stun. Elder Titan is all about controlling a massive area with Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter. This often leads to them working at cross-purposes. Vengeful Spirit might swap a key target out of a perfect stomp, or Elder Titan might be off setting up with Astral Spirit, unable to help Venge's target. They don't really help each other land their biggest spells.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Crusader & Archon | 51.61% | 186 |
| Legend & Ancient | 50.65% | 154 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 53.33% | ▼ -1.9pp | 165 |
| 7.41d | 55.27% | ▲ +5.5pp | 14,598 |
| 7.41c | 49.81% | ▲ +4.8pp | 6,033 |
| 7.41b | 45.03% | — | 6,109 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.