How Phoenix and Tiny perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Phoenix and Tiny win 44.44% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 360 matches.
Setting up a kill with Avalanche can work well for Phoenix, but the follow-up is where things get messy. The core issue is Tiny’s Toss, which can accidentally save enemies that Phoenix is trying to burn down. A target being slowed by Sun Ray can be thrown to safety, and more critically, an enemy can be tossed completely out of a Supernova's stun radius. This forces Tiny to play around his ally’s biggest spells in a way that feels unnatural, holding back on his own repositioning instincts to avoid ruining the setup.
This clash in styles often plays out across the entire game. Phoenix wants to control a large area and wear down the enemy team over a long teamfight. Tiny, on the other hand, excels at bursting down a single, isolated target and moving on. This can lead to moments where the two heroes are working at cross-purposes, even when they're trying to focus the same enemy. While they can certainly win fights together with careful communication, their kits often create friction that a coordinated enemy team can take advantage of.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 44.35% | 115 |
| Crusader & Archon | 47.95% | 342 |
| Legend & Ancient | 44.39% | 410 |
| Divine & Immortal | 51.15% | 260 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 44.44% | ▼ -1.3pp | 360 |
| 7.41d | 45.76% | ▼ -1.1pp | 43,584 |
| 7.41c | 46.81% | ▼ -3.0pp | 38,228 |
| 7.41b | 49.81% | — | 44,478 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.