How Tiny and Weaver perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Tiny and Weaver win 43.69% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 396 matches.
Tossing Weaver into a fight is almost always a mistake. Weaver's survival depends on controlling his own positioning with Shukuchi and Time Lapse, letting him stay invisible and choose his moment to strike. When Tiny throws him, he loses all that control, landing in a predictable spot as a very fragile target. Unlike a durable initiator who wants to be tossed in, a repositioned Weaver is often a dead Weaver, especially if the enemy has lockdown ready for his landing. This fundamental conflict of abilities means one of Tiny's most powerful ganking tools is often unusable.
Across the game, this leads to a lack of a coherent plan. Tiny wants to group up and burst a single target with Avalanche and Toss, while Weaver prefers to skirmish on the edges of a fight, wearing down enemies over time. This means the two heroes rarely want to be in the same place at the same time. The Weaver player has to actively avoid his own Tiny to prevent being thrown to his death, making coordinated ganks awkward. Without a good Toss target, Tiny's initiation potential is reduced, forcing the team into a scattered playstyle that may not suit its other heroes.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 41.67% | 276 |
| Crusader & Archon | 41.88% | 468 |
| Legend & Ancient | 46.05% | 367 |
| Divine & Immortal | 43.57% | 140 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 43.69% | ▲ +0.7pp | 396 |
| 7.41d | 43.00% | ▲ +0.3pp | 51,843 |
| 7.41c | 42.71% | ▼ -0.3pp | 33,695 |
| 7.41b | 42.96% | — | 41,985 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.