How Viper and Weaver perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Viper and Weaver win 47.22% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 5,900 matches.
Trying to kill a single hero is where the friction shows. Viper can apply Viper Strike, massively slowing the target and setting up a chase. Weaver can then easily stay on top of them with Shukuchi. The problem is that neither hero has a stun. A simple teleport scroll, Force Staff, or a well-timed defensive spell from a support is often enough for the target to survive the initial gank attempt. Their damage types also don't amplify each other; Viper's magic damage gets no benefit from Weaver's armor reduction, and they end up feeling like two solo heroes fighting near each other.
This lack of control becomes a major liability as the game progresses. The Viper wants to force fights and take objectives in the mid-game, but the lineup lacks the tools to initiate properly. The enemy team can often split them up, bursting down the fragile Weaver before he can have an impact or simply walking past the slow Viper to kill his backline. Without a solid frontliner or a strong teamfight stunner to pair with them, they leave too many openings for an opponent to exploit their disconnected timings and kits.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 46.19% | 643 |
| Crusader & Archon | 45.22% | 869 |
| Legend & Ancient | 42.89% | 457 |
| Divine & Immortal | 57.04% | 135 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 47.22% | ▲ +1.5pp | 5,900 |
| 7.41d | 45.74% | ▲ +1.2pp | 81,131 |
| 7.41c | 44.51% | ▼ -0.7pp | 40,862 |
| 7.41b | 45.23% | — | 49,172 |
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Data updated Aug 17, 2026.