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Dark Seer vs Lion

Head-to-head Dota 2 7.41e win rate from ranked matches.

Favored
Dark Seer 50.15%
Dark Seer50.15%
Lion49.85%
Over 10,343 ranked matches (7.41e).

In Dota 2 7.41e, Dark Seer wins the Dark Seer vs Lion matchup: Dark Seer beats Lion in 50.15% of 10,343 ranked matches.

How this matchup plays

Catching a target under Surge with instant disables looks like it should give Lion an edge, but the reality is more complicated. Dark Seer’s main contribution often isn't his own movement; it's placing Ion Shell on a durable initiator and sending them in. Lion can certainly use Hex or Earth Spike on that hero, but the Ion Shell continues to burn everyone nearby, meaning the core of the damage plan isn't actually stopped. Wall of Replica also creates chaos, forcing Lion to potentially waste his single-target spells on a weak illusion, which is a disaster for his team.

This makes the matchup a constant battle of positioning and target choice. In the early game, Lion can be a nuisance in lane, but Dark Seer is generally content to farm safely. Later, Lion's team wants to isolate a key hero and burst them with Finger of Death before Dark Seer can set up a big fight. In response, the Dark Seer's team wants to initiate with so many threats at once—the Surged core, the illusions, the heroes running through the wall—that Lion can’t effectively lock down the right person. The outcome really depends on which hero executes their plan better in the moment.

Dark Seer vs Lion by rank

How the matchup shifts across skill brackets — Dark Seer's win rate against Lion in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.

RankDark Seer win rateMatches
Herald & Guardian48.87%532
Crusader & Archon50.29%1,376
Legend & Ancient52.08%1,373
Divine & Immortal50.84%651

Dark Seer vs Lion across patches

Dark Seer's win rate against Lion in each recent balance patch — whether this matchup is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.

PatchDark Seer win rateChangeMatches
7.41e 50.15%▼ -0.0pp10,343
7.41d 50.20%▲ +1.3pp103,828
7.41c 48.90%▼ -1.2pp36,213
7.41b 50.07%32,773

Move this data into a draft

Put Dark Seer against Lion

Dark Seer starts on Radiant and Lion on Dire. Add the other eight picks to see whether this head-to-head edge survives the full draft.

Radiant4 open
Dark Seer
Dire4 open
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Frequently asked questions

Does Dark Seer counter Lion?
Dark Seer wins 50.15% of ranked matches against Lion in Dota 2 7.41e (10,343 matches) — the matchup favors Dark Seer.
Does Lion counter Dark Seer?
Lion wins 49.85% of ranked matches against Dark Seer in Dota 2 7.41e (10,343 matches) — the matchup favors Dark Seer.
How many matches back the Dark Seer vs Lion win rate?
10,343 quality-filtered ranked matches from patch 7.41e, refreshed as new matches are ingested daily.

Data updated Aug 17, 2026.