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Dark Seer vs Timbersaw

Head-to-head Dota 2 7.41e win rate from ranked matches.

Favored
Dark Seer 50.00%
Dark Seer50.00%
Timbersaw50.00%
Over 236 ranked matches (7.41e).

In Dota 2 7.41e, Dark Seer wins the Dark Seer vs Timbersaw matchup: Dark Seer beats Timbersaw in 50.00% of 236 ranked matches.

How this matchup plays

Facing a shelled creep wave puts Timbersaw in a tough spot. He has to take constant magical damage from Ion Shell to get his farm, forcing him to burn through all his regeneration. While the damage ticks do give him Reactive Armor stacks, it's not the kind of fight he wants to take. Dark Seer dictates the pace of the lane from a safe distance. If Timbersaw ever tries to get aggressive and go for a kill, a quick Surge makes Dark Seer impossible to catch. This leaves Timbersaw unable to get the snowballing start he needs. Later on, Vacuum can pull him away from trees, crippling his mobility when he needs it most.

Dark Seer vs Timbersaw by rank

How the matchup shifts across skill brackets — Dark Seer's win rate against Timbersaw in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.

RankDark Seer win rateMatches
Crusader & Archon59.26%189
Legend & Ancient48.88%178
Divine & Immortal50.43%115

Dark Seer vs Timbersaw across patches

Dark Seer's win rate against Timbersaw in each recent balance patch — whether this matchup is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.

PatchDark Seer win rateChangeMatches
7.41e 50.00%▼ -3.5pp236
7.41d 53.50%▼ -0.9pp16,165
7.41c 54.38%▼ -1.9pp6,144
7.41b 56.31%5,127

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Put Dark Seer against Timbersaw

Dark Seer starts on Radiant and Timbersaw on Dire. Add the other eight picks to see whether this head-to-head edge survives the full draft.

Radiant4 open
Dark Seer
Dire4 open
Timbersaw
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Frequently asked questions

Does Dark Seer counter Timbersaw?
Dark Seer wins 50.00% of ranked matches against Timbersaw in Dota 2 7.41e (236 matches) — the matchup favors Dark Seer.
Does Timbersaw counter Dark Seer?
Timbersaw wins 50.00% of ranked matches against Dark Seer in Dota 2 7.41e (236 matches) — the matchup favors Dark Seer.
How many matches back the Dark Seer vs Timbersaw win rate?
236 quality-filtered ranked matches from patch 7.41e, refreshed as new matches are ingested daily.

Data updated Aug 11, 2026.