Head-to-head Dota 2 7.41e win rate from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Phoenix wins the Phoenix vs Timbersaw matchup: Phoenix beats Timbersaw in 62.60% of 361 ranked matches.
Playing the durable frontline role for your team feels impossible against a Phoenix. Timbersaw wants to get in the middle of the fight and stay there, but Supernova completely shuts that down. He has no way to deal with the egg; his spells don't work on it and his right-click damage is far too low to break it before it explodes. This forces Timbersaw to either abandon a fight his team needs him in or get caught by the stun and die. Even outside the ultimate, Fire Spirits are a constant problem, slowing him down and crippling the attack speed he'd need to have any chance against the egg later.
How the matchup shifts across skill brackets — Phoenix's win rate against Timbersaw in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Phoenix win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 57.01% | 107 |
| Crusader & Archon | 60.55% | 327 |
| Legend & Ancient | 60.88% | 340 |
| Divine & Immortal | 58.95% | 190 |
Phoenix's win rate against Timbersaw in each recent balance patch — whether this matchup is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Phoenix win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 62.60% | ▲ +7.1pp | 361 |
| 7.41d | 55.48% | ▲ +0.4pp | 33,842 |
| 7.41c | 55.08% | ▼ -2.2pp | 19,625 |
| 7.41b | 57.32% | — | 17,305 |
Move this data into a draft
Phoenix starts on Radiant and Timbersaw on Dire. Add the other eight picks to see whether this head-to-head edge survives the full draft.
Data updated Aug 11, 2026.