Head-to-head Dota 2 7.41e win rate from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Viper wins the Timbersaw vs Viper matchup: Viper beats Timbersaw in 56.94% of 555 ranked matches.
Picking Timbersaw into a potential Viper lane is a huge risk. Viper's entire kit seems designed to dismantle him. Nethertoxin is the biggest problem, as the break it applies completely disables Reactive Armor. Without his passive, Timbersaw loses all of his signature tankiness and becomes a fragile target who melts to magic damage. Viper’s other spells pile on; the constant magic damage from Poison Attack bypasses Timber's armor, and Corrosive Skin makes Viper himself surprisingly difficult for Timbersaw to burst down, even with a full combo of spells.
This advantage starts in the lane and only gets stronger. Timbersaw can’t trade effectively or build up his stacks, forcing him into a passive, farm-focused game he doesn't want to play. Later on, his role in a teamfight becomes incredibly awkward. If he tries to Timber Chain into the enemy team, Viper can place Nethertoxin on him, silencing and breaking him on the spot. Viper Strike can then lock him down, preventing any escape. Timbersaw is forced to hang on the edges of a fight, unable to be the disruptive front-liner his team needs.
How the matchup shifts across skill brackets — Timbersaw's win rate against Viper in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Timbersaw win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 49.39% | 328 |
| Crusader & Archon | 46.88% | 561 |
| Legend & Ancient | 38.75% | 369 |
| Divine & Immortal | 42.41% | 158 |
Timbersaw's win rate against Viper in each recent balance patch — whether this matchup is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Timbersaw win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 43.06% | ▼ -2.9pp | 555 |
| 7.41d | 46.00% | ▼ -1.4pp | 52,161 |
| 7.41c | 47.36% | ▲ +2.6pp | 24,907 |
| 7.41b | 44.78% | — | 20,531 |
Move this data into a draft
Timbersaw starts on Radiant and Viper on Dire. Add the other eight picks to see whether this head-to-head edge survives the full draft.
Data updated Aug 11, 2026.