How Alchemist and Timbersaw perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41f, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41f, Alchemist and Timbersaw win 41.90% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 6,625 matches.
Staring down an Alchemist and a Timbersaw feels intimidating, but often the biggest problem is on their own team. Both heroes are incredibly greedy and want to be the focal point, farming aggressively to hit their timings and take over the map. The issue is that they end up competing for the same resources. Alchemist wants to clear the enemy jungle after a tower falls, and so does Timbersaw. This starves the rest of their team and can even slow down their own progress. The draft ends up with two frontliners who want to do the same job, often leaving critical gaps in control or long-range initiation that disciplined opponents can exploit.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Crusader & Archon | 34.93% | 209 |
| Legend & Ancient | 40.54% | 185 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41f | 41.90% | ▼ -1.9pp | 6,625 |
| 7.41e | 43.84% | ▲ +0.1pp | 20,809 |
| 7.41d | 43.71% | ▼ -2.1pp | 26,859 |
| 7.41c | 45.84% | — | 17,564 |
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Data updated Oct 5, 2026.