How Grimstroke and Timbersaw perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Grimstroke and Timbersaw win 38.36% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 438 matches.
Drafting Timbersaw after a Grimstroke pick often feels like a misstep. The core issue is a fundamental lack of synergy with Soulbind. Grimstroke's ultimate only duplicates single-target spells, but all of Timbersaw's primary damage from Whirling Death and Chakram is area-of-effect. This leaves one of the game's most powerful teamfight ultimates completely inert for a key damage-dealing core. While an Ink Swell can help set up a gank, it's a small consolation. You're left with two heroes whose primary abilities don't interact, forcing them to operate as separate units rather than a cohesive pair, and their overlapping magic damage is often easy to itemize against.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 49.55% | 111 |
| Crusader & Archon | 46.04% | 391 |
| Legend & Ancient | 38.37% | 404 |
| Divine & Immortal | 44.62% | 186 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 38.36% | ▼ -6.8pp | 438 |
| 7.41d | 45.16% | ▲ +0.1pp | 35,834 |
| 7.41c | 45.11% | ▲ +3.0pp | 14,665 |
| 7.41b | 42.08% | — | 10,856 |
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Data updated Aug 12, 2026.