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Lion + Timbersaw

How Lion and Timbersaw perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.

As teammates
Together 42.11%
Win rate when Lion and Timbersaw are on the same team, over 1,729 ranked matches (7.41e).

In Dota 2 7.41e, Lion and Timbersaw win 42.11% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 1,729 matches.

Why this works

Picking these two heroes together often creates a team with a confused game plan. Lion provides excellent single-target lockdown and burst with Hex and Finger of Death, aiming to eliminate one enemy instantly. Timbersaw, on the other hand, excels in drawn-out fights, zipping around with Timber Chain and wearing down opponents with repeated spells. Lion’s entire combo to delete a support is over in seconds, which is often not enough time for Timbersaw to get into position and contribute effectively. Their core timings and damage patterns simply don't align.

This mismatch becomes more obvious as the game progresses. In a gank, Lion’s stuns will hold a target in place, but Timbersaw’s follow-up isn't the immediate burst that capitalizes on it. In larger teamfights, the heroes seem to want different things. Lion looks for an angle to pick off a backliner, while Timbersaw wants to dive the enemy frontline and create chaos. This leaves your team without a focused objective, making it easy for the enemy to separate and handle each threat individually instead of dealing with a coordinated assault.

Lion + Timbersaw by rank

How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.

RankTeam win rateMatches
Herald & Guardian44.54%568
Crusader & Archon42.87%1,801
Legend & Ancient42.00%1,719
Divine & Immortal40.66%701

Lion + Timbersaw across patches

This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.

PatchTeam win rateChangeMatches
7.41e 42.11%▼ -2.6pp1,729
7.41d 44.69%▼ -1.1pp153,985
7.41c 45.77%▲ +1.3pp76,088
7.41b 44.49%57,626

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Frequently asked questions

Do Lion and Timbersaw work well together in Dota 2?
As teammates, Lion and Timbersaw win 42.11% of ranked matches in patch 7.41e (1,729 matches) — below the 50% baseline for a duo.
How many matches back the Lion + Timbersaw number?
1,729 quality-filtered ranked matches from patch 7.41e, refreshed as new matches are ingested daily.

Data updated Aug 11, 2026.