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Shadow Fiend + Timbersaw

How Shadow Fiend and Timbersaw perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.

As teammates
Together 40.86%
Win rate when Shadow Fiend and Timbersaw are on the same team, over 1,133 ranked matches (7.41e).

In Dota 2 7.41e, Shadow Fiend and Timbersaw win 40.86% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 1,133 matches.

Why this works

Picking these two cores together puts your team in a difficult position from the draft. Both Timbersaw and Shadow Fiend want to be the center of the fight, dealing massive area-of-effect magic damage. The problem is that their damage types overlap heavily, making it simple for the enemy to itemize with magic resistance and shut them both down. Worse, neither hero provides the lockdown the other desperately needs. Timbersaw can't hold anyone in place for Shadowrazes, and Shadow Fiend offers no stuns to help Timber secure kills on mobile targets. They end up fighting for the same farm and role without actually helping each other.

This leaves your team feeling powerful in the early laning stage but disjointed as soon as enemies start grouping. You have a ton of damage on paper, but no way to apply it reliably. Opponents can often survive the initial burst and simply walk away. Your lineup becomes entirely dependent on your other heroes to provide all the stuns and control. Unless your supports are incredible initiators, both Shadow Fiend and Timbersaw will struggle to find the clean teamfights they need to snowball, often leading to a frustrating mid-game where you can't translate lane advantages into objectives.

Shadow Fiend + Timbersaw by rank

How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.

RankTeam win rateMatches
Herald & Guardian43.41%364
Crusader & Archon39.25%1,060
Legend & Ancient40.66%1,023
Divine & Immortal41.58%493

Shadow Fiend + Timbersaw across patches

This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.

PatchTeam win rateChangeMatches
7.41e 40.86%▼ -1.1pp1,133
7.41d 41.92%▼ -0.7pp86,852
7.41c 42.62%▲ +2.7pp33,301
7.41b 39.92%24,826

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Draft Shadow Fiend and Timbersaw together

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Frequently asked questions

Do Shadow Fiend and Timbersaw work well together in Dota 2?
As teammates, Shadow Fiend and Timbersaw win 40.86% of ranked matches in patch 7.41e (1,133 matches) — below the 50% baseline for a duo.
How many matches back the Shadow Fiend + Timbersaw number?
1,133 quality-filtered ranked matches from patch 7.41e, refreshed as new matches are ingested daily.

Data updated Aug 11, 2026.