How Pangolier and Timbersaw perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Pangolier and Timbersaw win 34.04% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 141 matches.
Pairing these two high-mobility cores seems like a good way to create a durable, chaotic frontline, but they often step on each other's toes. The main issue is that their control spells work at cross-purposes. Pangolier's Rolling Thunder is designed to disrupt and scatter the enemy team, but this frequently pushes targets away from Timbersaw, making it difficult for him to land a clean Whirling Death or sustain damage with Chakram. Since both heroes also want to occupy a similar aggressive position in fights, the duo lacks the layered control or lockdown needed to secure kills, allowing enemies to split up and escape their combined pressure.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Crusader & Archon | 30.91% | 110 |
| Legend & Ancient | 39.35% | 155 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 34.04% | ▼ -6.8pp | 141 |
| 7.41d | 40.80% | ▼ -1.6pp | 14,623 |
| 7.41c | 42.40% | ▼ -0.0pp | 11,720 |
| 7.41b | 42.42% | — | 11,139 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.