How Pudge and Timbersaw perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Pudge and Timbersaw win 44.44% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 1,332 matches.
Picking these two heroes together puts your team into a very narrow strategy. Both Pudge and Timbersaw are tanky cores who deal almost entirely magic damage, which lets the enemy team counter both of you with the same items. Their individual goals also conflict. Pudge wants to stand back and pull one enemy out of position with a Meat Hook, creating an uneven fight. Timbersaw, on the other hand, wants to dive deep into the enemy formation, causing chaos and drawing attention while he deals sustained area damage. They operate in different spaces and don't directly help each other accomplish their objectives.
This duo often feels strong early, but their combined impact falls off hard. As the game goes on, your team will seriously lack physical damage for taking down towers or killing tanky heroes who have built magic resistance. Your entire game plan revolves around landing a perfect Hook to start every fight, which is predictable and easy to play around. The enemy team can simply buy a Pipe of Insight or Glimmer Cape, stick together, and wait for you to miss a hook. Once that happens, they can usually just walk at your team and win the fight.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 46.25% | 506 |
| Crusader & Archon | 47.62% | 1,365 |
| Legend & Ancient | 42.50% | 1,160 |
| Divine & Immortal | 43.41% | 569 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 44.44% | ▼ -1.1pp | 1,332 |
| 7.41d | 45.55% | ▼ -0.2pp | 119,800 |
| 7.41c | 45.74% | ▲ +1.3pp | 53,554 |
| 7.41b | 44.47% | — | 42,579 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.