How Timbersaw and Vengeful Spirit perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Timbersaw and Vengeful Spirit win 45.43% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 722 matches.
Teamfights feel disconnected when these two are paired. Vengeful Spirit’s main contribution for killing a hero is Wave of Terror, which shreds armor and makes someone vulnerable to physical attacks. The problem is that Timbersaw deals almost exclusively magical and pure damage with his spells. This means Venge’s primary debuff does next to nothing to amplify his output, leaving him without the support a frontliner often needs to secure kills. She sets the table for a physical damage dealer, and Timbersaw arrives with his Chakrams instead.
This conflict extends to positioning across the game. Timbersaw wants to dive deep into the enemy lines using Timber Chain, while Vengeful Spirit prefers to stay on the edge of the fight to use her spells and aura safely. Using Nether Swap to save a deep Timbersaw is incredibly risky, often resulting in Venge’s death or pulling him out of a spot he actively wanted to reach. The duo lacks a central strategy, forcing them to play separate games within the same fight and making it easier for opponents to isolate and defeat them one by one.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 43.39% | 242 |
| Crusader & Archon | 47.86% | 771 |
| Legend & Ancient | 45.18% | 737 |
| Divine & Immortal | 45.07% | 304 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 45.43% | ▼ -1.4pp | 722 |
| 7.41d | 46.87% | ▲ +1.4pp | 63,781 |
| 7.41c | 45.45% | ▲ +1.1pp | 19,514 |
| 7.41b | 44.35% | — | 15,325 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.