How Ancient Apparition and Timbersaw perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Ancient Apparition and Timbersaw win 44.14% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 401 matches.
Pairing up these two seems like a good idea on paper because of all the spell damage, but it's a classic trap. The problem is that Timbersaw's main damage sources—Whirling Death and Chakram—are pure damage. This means Ancient Apparition’s Ice Vortex, which only reduces magic resistance, offers him almost no benefit. The rest of their kits don't align either. Timbersaw is too mobile and lacks the lockdown to help set up a reliable Cold Feet stun. They end up playing separate games within the same fight: Ancient Apparition positions far in the back to land a good Ice Blast, while Timbersaw is deep in the enemy's face, well outside the Vortex.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 46.05% | 152 |
| Crusader & Archon | 43.56% | 427 |
| Legend & Ancient | 40.56% | 355 |
| Divine & Immortal | 33.33% | 123 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 44.14% | ▼ -1.4pp | 401 |
| 7.41d | 45.51% | ▲ +0.6pp | 36,579 |
| 7.41c | 44.96% | ▲ +1.0pp | 15,284 |
| 7.41b | 43.94% | — | 13,313 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.