How Phantom Lancer and Timbersaw perform as teammates in Dota 2 7.41e, from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41e, Phantom Lancer and Timbersaw win 41.63% of ranked matches when playing on the same team, over 735 matches.
Carving out space with Timber Chain and Whirling Death is what Timbersaw is built to do, creating constant pressure from the mid-game onward. This tempo doesn't line up well with what Phantom Lancer needs, as he has to spend that same period farming his core items before his illusions become a win condition. This results in a disjointed game plan where Timbersaw is trying to force fights that his carry can't join. By the time Phantom Lancer is ready to go, the window of opportunity Timbersaw created is often closed, leaving the team without a unified power spike to rally behind.
How this pairing performs across skill brackets — the duo's team win rate in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Team win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 43.51% | 285 |
| Crusader & Archon | 44.07% | 674 |
| Legend & Ancient | 39.04% | 502 |
| Divine & Immortal | 43.32% | 277 |
This duo's team win rate in each recent balance patch — whether the pairing is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Team win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41e | 41.63% | ▼ -5.4pp | 735 |
| 7.41d | 47.08% | ▼ -0.8pp | 55,961 |
| 7.41c | 47.83% | ▲ +1.7pp | 23,907 |
| 7.41b | 46.12% | — | 18,232 |
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Data updated Aug 11, 2026.