Head-to-head Dota 2 7.41f win rate from ranked matches.
In Dota 2 7.41f, Phantom Lancer wins the Phantom Lancer vs Timbersaw matchup: Phantom Lancer beats Timbersaw in 52.55% of 25,903 ranked matches.
Seeing all of Timbersaw's area damage might make you think he’s a natural counter here. The reality is that his entire kit depends on a mana pool that Phantom Lancer is perfectly equipped to destroy. Once PL gets his Diffusal Blade, every illusion becomes a walking mana drain. Timbersaw needs to cast constantly to be effective, but he can't sustain that when an army is hitting him. While his Reactive Armor makes him tough against the physical attacks, it does nothing to stop his mana from vanishing in seconds, leaving him completely helpless.
An aggressive lane from Timbersaw can give him an early lead, but the matchup flips hard later on. Phantom Lancer will actively hunt him, knowing that a few seconds of focus from illusions will leave Timbersaw without an escape or any damage. In bigger fights, PL can send his illusions to neutralize Timbersaw from the start, taking the enemy's frontline presence out of the equation. Timbersaw is forced into a defensive position, hoping his team can find and burst the real Phantom Lancer before his mana bar is empty.
How the matchup shifts across skill brackets — Phantom Lancer's win rate against Timbersaw in recent ranked matches, split by average match rank. Ranks with too few recent matches are omitted. These rows use the last 30 days of quality-filtered ranked matches, all patches in that span combined — a wider window than the patch-scoped count above, so the per-rank match totals can exceed it.
| Rank | Phantom Lancer win rate | Matches |
|---|---|---|
| Herald & Guardian | 52.83% | 265 |
| Crusader & Archon | 52.39% | 775 |
| Legend & Ancient | 51.94% | 801 |
| Divine & Immortal | 51.59% | 314 |
Phantom Lancer's win rate against Timbersaw in each recent balance patch — whether this matchup is trending up or down. Patches without enough matches are omitted.
| Patch | Phantom Lancer win rate | Change | Matches |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7.41f | 52.55% | ▼ -0.9pp | 25,903 |
| 7.41e | 53.46% | ▲ +0.9pp | 76,381 |
| 7.41d | 52.53% | ▼ -0.2pp | 61,395 |
| 7.41c | 52.75% | — | 24,478 |
Move this data into a draft
Phantom Lancer starts on Radiant and Timbersaw on Dire. Add the other eight picks to see whether this head-to-head edge survives the full draft.
Data updated Oct 5, 2026.